The Future of 3-D Videogames

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The Future of 3-D Videogames

The article at http://www.forbes.com/...">http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/04/3d-avatar-television-technology-breakth... (WARNING: There is a video game screen shot) has a subtitle of "They're off to a slow start, but the potential for these games is big."

In regards to their potential, the article finishes with:

Quote:"Think of combining a 3-D TV and 3-D gaming with Project Natal," says Patrick Naud, executive producer of the 3-D "Avatar" game, referring to the motion-sensing system for Microsoft's ( MSFT - news - people ) Xbox 360 slated for release later this year. "With the ability to move in 3-D within your living room while seeing your game in 3-D, there are so many possibilities there."

Although this will likely be fairly harmless for most people, my concern is that having a 3-D aspect would make the games more addicting for those of us who are susceptible to that by helping to make it harder to separate reality from fantasy.

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Here in the UK , they are

Here in the UK , they are already preveiwing the showing of real football games, in pubs, in 3D and are looking to install the equipment in many chains of pubs, clubs, etc, within 18 months. This year, it was recently announced, several TV companys are producing 3D programmes and they predict within 2 years, 3D TV equipment will be flying off the shelves....so 3D will soon become common place not just as games.

It is a very worrying thought. I can remember having a conversation with someone in a game a while ago, he was a computer wizz kid for a Japanese development company....he looked on the computer and electronic industry as being the next stage of human evolution, envisaging many people using virtual worlds, games, interactive websites, as being the means of communication of the future. These would use 3D, sensory equipment which has been developed already, and other computer generated sense programmes such as controlling the room lighting, releasing scents, background noise, temperature control, to give as realistic an experience as posible. He thought we would use computers as an extension of ourselves, but in the sense we would go inward, even taking the conception further to actually spending most of our waking life in there. The line between reality and fantasy would become blurred.....

I don't know how many people are already addicted to electronic games, but I would imagine as more and more technology is released, more and more will be.

Looks like he wasn't far wrong as to where we are heading.

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The article Metal Gear

The article Metal Gear Arcade mixes 3D glasses with head-tracking for this season's hottest new look says:

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The arcade game is based on Metal Gear Online, but the head gear adds 3D and head-tracking to the experience. There's also a physical gun controller, and the sit down arcade cabinets pump out your gunplay in huge 5.1 sound. This new arcade incarnation of the game will be playable at the AUO Expo in Japan this week, ...

Thus, in addition to television, it seems that 3-D gaming is also coming to the arcades.

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Engineers are hard at work

Engineers are hard at work at creating 3-D television sets that do not require special glasses! I assume that this technology can also be applied to computer monitors and, thus, be used by video games. The details are at 3D television, without the silly glasses.

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The article Darkworks SDK

The article Darkworks SDK transforms 2D games into 3D games, no 3D TV required says:

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In short, this magical software concoction is a post-process effect that allows standard 2D games to be transformed into 3D masterpieces... and you don't even need to buy a 3D television. We were briefed on the tech here at the show, and we're told that the magic happens in the software and the glasses, and unlike existing 3D technologies, other users around the house will still be able to watch you play in 2D without all those blurred edges.

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The article Unreal Engine 3

The article Unreal Engine 3 adds extra dimension with NVIDIA 3D Vision ([color=red]WARNING: There is a video game screen shot[/color]) says:

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Epic Games has announced that its wildly popular Unreal Engine 3 has now added NVIDIA's 3D Vision to its list of supported technologies. ... The Unreal Development Kit - a freeware version of the Engine for non-commercial uses - is also being upgraded to make the addition of stereoscopic 3D effects "easier than ever," ...

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The Slashdot article

The Slashdot article Nintendo Announces 3D Successor of Nintendo DS says:

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Nintendo has posted a press release (PDF) titled 'Launch of New Portable Game Machine,' promoting a new, upcoming handheld game console temporarily named the 'Nintendo 3DS,' which will feature 3D graphics without the need for any sort of special glasses. It will be backward-compatible with DS and DSi games.

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The launch window is vague aEU" sometime between April 2010 and March 2011. More details will be revealed at E3 in June.

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The Gadget Website article

The Gadget Website article Sony 3D TVs launching in June with PS3 3D games ([color=red]WARNING: There is an advertisement with a video game screen shot[/color]) says:

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Sony has announced that its range of 3D products including its first 3D TV will be available to buy in June.

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PS3 fans can also look forward to a 3D treat as Sony plans to launch four 3D stereoscopic games which come free when you purchase a HX803 3D TV.

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To make your PS3 3D compatible, console owners will need to download a firmware update which will be made available prior to the launch of the HX803 3D TV. ...

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The article Microsoft's Phil

The article Microsoft's Phil Spencer rains on Sony's 3D parade, thinks 3DS has potential says:

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Is 3D gaming on the verge of completely revolutionizing your world? If you're a hardcore PlayStation fan, you might believe the answer to that question is "yes." However, given the recent DisplaySearch findings on 3DTV adoption, we're thinking more of you fall in with the leanings of Microsoft's Phil Spencer, who is making it clear that he isn't pushing the technology at this point:

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"I like the 3DS, you don't have to wear the glasses."

I am not sure how the 3-D glasses for TV's or game consoles compare to those used for the movies, but I would certainly prefer to have 3-D without requiring any glasses. However, especially with a significant investment like buying a 3-D TV or console, I would be more concerned about quality and functionality than about convenience, so the 3DS may not be what I would personally get.

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There's something the

There's something the playstation now too (and something similar for the PSP) where you use a video camera with game such that what you see on the screen is you and your familar sitting in a room (via the camera) and a virtual pet that interacts with you on the screen. The PSP one is a bit different, almost acting like a magnifying glass to view the word, but looking through it you catch monsters with your hand, etc.

Both are geared toward kids. I haven't played either, but they're pretty entertaining apparently.

There will always be some new thing. That's what got me about EverQuest originally. I was visiting with a friend and all of a sudden he's showing me this world that I didn't know existed. An immersive 3D world with other people was kind of a fantasy when I was gaming earlier on, and then *POW* there is was.

And that being said, I think that games will continue to become more and more popular. A Sony Exec back in the day supposed that big games like MMOs will eventually have movie sized budgets and are the next form of entertainment.

He's probably right. We've already seen here on these forums that plenty of older people get surprised by and then sucked into these games. I've been secretly waiting for all the people that play farmville on facebook to discover WoW, etc. "If you guys really want a fun and addicting grinding experience... First month's free.

We'll probably see more and more people going into recovery for gaming problems over the years, and may increasingly be recognized as something to be careful with like alcohol, or avoided like drugs.

I don't think it affects those of us in recovery too much. I feel bad for the people that are going to have problems with it, but I think that's just part of the human experience. There are always temptations and lessons for us to learn.

Geeze, I didn't mean to prattle on like that...

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Cyphersnow, I don't think

Cyphersnow, I don't think that your post was "prattle" at all but, instead, contained some useful comments related to this topic. Thank you for providing them.

The article, at Nintendo Goes for the Hard Core with Its 3DS, says:

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... The trouble is that casual gamers, by definition, don't play or buy a lot of games. While Nintendo isn't forsaking those customers, its new 3DS, due out in Japan in February and in the U.S. a month later, is an effort to win over the players who prefer their games to feature commandos, not canines. "The company has taken a U-turn and is focusing more on core gamers," says Atul Goyal, senior research analyst at CLSA Asia-Pacific Markets in Tokyo. "They understand that the casual market is crowded."

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The 3DS, which Nintendo announced in March, will feature wireless Web access, multiple cameras, and accelerometers to sense motion, just like Apple's iPhones and iPod touches. As its name suggests, the 3DS can show three-dimensional images--without the need for special glasses. Nintendo is working with studios to bring streaming, 3D movies to the device. To make it easier to play high-end games such as Activision's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, the 3DS will house a more powerful processor and a higher-definition display than its predecessor.

Although some casual players will undoubtedly get these 3-D systems, including the 3DS, this article makes it quite clear that these systems are targeted more towards the "high-end" or "hard core" gamers, a category that includes most addicted gamers.

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This is the part I don't

This is the part I don't get, if people want everything to be "so real", why not just stay in real life where everything is already 4D, (humans even have aura's). I don't see why they spend so much time and money trying to make things SEEM real, when we already have real things.....

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Liz - do you remember the Holodeck from Star Trek NG, and how absolutely cool that was? If you aren't familar with that, check it out online. Then you will get it.

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Selling your life for an

Selling your life for an illusion, deceiving your brain, becoming another way of escaping real life. It's a pity most people don't realize this.

Not even interesting in imax.

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lizwool wrote: This is the
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This is the part I don't get, if people want everything to be "so real", why not just stay in real life where everything is already 4D, (humans even have aura's). I don't see why they spend so much time and money trying to make things SEEM real, when we already have real things.....

Because Liz, there are no consequences for out actions in there. In real life there are very real consequences, and a very real fear of failure, rejection, and danger.

In these games that is mostly removed. Unless the game is an MMO like game then the fear of rejection does come into play still, unless it has a solo option.

I play a game because in WoW for example I am guaranteed to not have to deal with real life consequences for failure. If I fail to help fight a boss and people think I suck and kick me, then I can just try again as soon as I can get into a new group.

I can learn from a failure no matter how extreme it is. The issue for some like myself is that we fear failure, and when WoW comes along with easy leveling and no consequence deaths so I can keep questing with minimal issue, then failure doesn't hurt so much. Rejection is also not a big deal, because in the end of the day if I get rejected by some hot realistic girl in say an adult themed game, then I know there are many more I can choose from. The benefit is that it helps lower crime to some extent in that case.

Add to that the option of being able to explore fantasy worlds, scifi environments, or even fly my own ship in realistic 3d gaming through a galaxy then it is also like a really kewl escape.

It gives the option also to people who want to feel heroic and do things they can't in their everyday life. I can't go climb a rock face because I am way out of shape. I could go meet lots of women, but then I would have to deal with rejection and sort through tons of women that are a mess. I perhaps could get a physics degree and build futuristic starships somehow.

But all these things come with failure that is real, and rejection that hurts. They can come with terrible or even life threatening consequences.

The movie Surrogates with Bruce Willis might be a good movie to watch to further understand my point.

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no sense in worrying about

no sense in worrying about it although it could spell the end of western civilization. If we only have online activities and communication who will have babies? All this technology might phase out the human race.- as we know it.

who knows- maybe it's all a giant conspiracey lol.

dys !! you think too much!!

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